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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:19 am

At last my mild dislike of wheat anything is justified. Razz

UA... not to give out terrible suggestions here, but maybe you could switch to wine?

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:50 am

Flora V. Arbor wrote:
WHEW!! Her is a baby and he NEEEEEEDS loving but will NOT
get off the keyboard and harmonize his loving
with my typing.

oop, here he comes again.
ok. he is lying behind the keyboard fo r aminute

Kittens are proteins and carbs... Must eat kittens...
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:32 am

Hmmm.. I like wine.. cheap one...

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:18 pm

E0N wrote:
At last my mild dislike of wheat anything is justified. Razz

UA... not to give out terrible suggestions here, but maybe you could switch to wine?

sigh.


theeeees weeeeeel not be theeeee answer that weeee seeeeek
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:20 pm

Leviathan wrote:
Flora V. Arbor wrote:
WHEW!! Her is a baby and he NEEEEEEDS loving but will NOT
get off the keyboard and harmonize his loving
with my typing.

oop, here he comes again.
ok. he is lying behind the keyboard fo r aminute

Kittens are proteins and carbs... Must eat kittens...


I'm telling on you.

The ghosts of all kittens will, now, haunt you and take away all your sleep until you

stoppy stop the naughtyness
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:26 pm

Flora V. Arbor wrote:

I'm telling on you.

The ghosts of all kittens will, now, haunt you and take away all your sleep until you

stoppy stop the naughtyness

My hatred of cats is renowned throughout here and my private life. Battleaxe had one, and it was a nightmare...

As for sleep, I don't need sleep. I need that thing where I close my eyes and run around until I wake up naked in the neighbors pool. (you can tell I get by on just three-four hours worth)
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:33 pm

All humans need sleep.
All humans die without sleep.

You may have some set of things that interferes with sleep
and "none" is different from "three".

If you need to run around, you are, probably, now in exercise.

A nightmare cat is, usually, a result of human-behavior.


Hating vertebrates who have smaller brains is not
admirable in any human.

Hating a specific vertebrate who is way smaller than you and needy
is not OK.

The ghosts of all cats will school you now and on-going.

It is time for you to watch "Animal Cops" all day every day for a while.


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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:49 pm

Cruelty-to-animals is what serial killers do because animals can't call 911
and the actions are harder to trace.

If you condone, engage in, or, in any way,
hold and defend Cruelty-to-ANY-animal,
I, strongly, suspect that you should turn yourself in
and that you are not RLSH.

I, sincerely, doubt that "Sure, GO ahead and hurt animals"
will, ever, be part of the RLSH program.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:55 pm

In 1995, when I got certified to teach Yoga,
( after 18 years of practice )
we, in the class, challenged ourselves to
go to the prisons and get Yoga to live up to it's bragging,
and
"fix" the prisoners.

As you may guess or know,
just plunking Yoga in there is not the answer -
and
we went at it from a
different-crime-different-treatment basis.


As i saw, when I backed up and took a good look,
no matter the urge,
just - the fuck - control yourself.


You have learned to control yourself when you want to pee
-and-
you have learned to control yourself when you want to do things like
run a red light.


"Control" is NOT - even a little bit - foreign to your days and nights.



We won't eliminate the urges to do things that aren't worth it
but
we can - the fuck - control ourselves.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:03 am

I've always assumed that cravings for something savoury were actually for protein. When you think about it, there weren't really any savoury carbs available to us during our evolution - like bread and pasta just wasn't around only really fat. I suppose the craving could have been for fat, but that would normally have come WITH the meat we ate.

I wrote an article on the paleo diet for a client. The theory is good like you say, but the problem is the assumptions many people make. Often it's based on the 'Ethnographic Atlas' which is apparently a pretty inaccurate guide. And of course there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of the advantages of a modern diet - some things are healthier than those we'd have found lying on the floor in the Savannah.

I think the real message of the paleo diet is to steer clear of tinned food, processed sugars and fizzy drinks. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:15 am

good points.
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:27 am

I've always placed a great deal of faith in my food cravings, personally.

Seems to work out.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:18 pm

I may be completely missing the point here, but it seems to me that the concept of eating the way we did in paleolithic times is somehow healthier than our current options. Is there any evidence at all to suggest that paleolithic people lived longer?

If I recall correctly, we are currently larger, stronger, and have longer life spans. If we follow the "what is old is good" philosophy to its admittedly absurd conclusin, we might also eschew penicillin and other health aids that were not accessible in days of yore.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:10 pm

Well the idea stems from a lack of diseases back then. Although its hard to prove that due to a lack of evidence. They've even found dinosaur fossils that had tumors on them. But most food today is loaded with preservatives and chemicals that you don't need, and are bad for you ultimately. People didn't live long back then because of a lack of a steady supply of food. Also a lack of sufficient healthcare and medicine, combined with dangerous environments and predators. But really you gotta ask yourself, why the he'll would you think junk food is better for you than natural fruits, vegetables and unprocessed meats?

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:21 pm

If we all followed our cravings, MOST would live on nothing but chocolate and booze.


No personal trainer gets people healthy by telling them to just follow cravings.

A very few people are on target with cravings.

YAY for them.

This changes nothing for the rest of us and our truckfuls of frosting
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:23 pm

ALLL food is just chemicals.

Preservatives preserve human tissue too
and cause no harm.

CLEARLY, a high-fat diet causes harm

AND YET, we live three times a long as our ancestors.

The big motivator here is a hatred of fatness.

KNOW THIS:
skinny people's brains shrink.

Eat. Exercise. Sleep. WASH your self and help out.
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:24 pm

Yeah... I don't think I could recommend following cravings to everybody.

Usually when I crave something it just seems to make sense.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 pm

Maybe it helps lately that I've gotten so involved in cooking. I don't normally crave buying a bag of candy or something -- it's more like "what should I cook?" these days.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 pm

EON, you are lucky and wise.
It is our honor to type in your general direction
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:27 pm

Flora V. Arbor wrote:
EON, you are lucky and wise.
It is our honor to type in your general direction



Ha... thanks. I find your posts very informative.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:01 pm

Sounds like the Adkins diet. Doctor suggested it, and muscle-building supplements from GNC. Anybody have any information?
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:05 pm

PPPBBBT!
 The brain burns five time more carbs than all of your other tissues put together - night and day.

 Here is the short answer:
 every four hours, outside of sleep, eat about 25grams of protein, about 400 calories of carbs, low fat,
 some vitamins and fiber.  EVERY day.

Then, the rest comes from exercise.

Lift two times a week - separated by two days.  So, tues/fri, or sat/wed...like that.
Do cardio almost every day
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:36 pm

Anyman wrote:
Sounds like the Adkins diet. Doctor suggested it, and muscle-building supplements from GNC. Anybody have any information?

 not ready,  paleo puts a big emphasis om vegetables, nuts and fruits. Hunter gatherer diet, with the occasional meat.

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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:20 am

UA, and it uses NO numbers.  That is sloppy and lazy and unhelpful.

The body's needs are precise.
Ignoring that is a waste of time and brains.

Further more, if you are not qualified to discuss nutrition,
 you are foolish to try
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PostSubject: Re: The Paleo Diet   Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:24 am

the bodies needs are relative.

If I ate 7000 calories a day like michael phelps, I would be a giant fat ass.

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