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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:29 am

Fighting on patrol is a last resort.  

Taking the "most damage in the least amount of time" approach is akin to the "Punisher" mentality of crime fighting.  If you're defending your family from a home invasion or multiple assailants, this is a smart way to go.  Out on patrol, most of the stuff you encounter will never need to reach this level, but when it does, a mentality of "least amount of damage to stop the threat and protect the victim" is generally best.  This complies with the Use of Force Continuum is most states, and gives you a much better standing with law enforcement (and the local EMTs, Paramedics, and ER units).
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:45 am

@Sage Martial arts is a way to learn to fight, not a way to fight. Most styles can teach you something, some can teach you a lot.

@Gauge You are totally right.

Violence is always last resort. You'll never have complete control of a violent situation until the threat of violence ceases, no matter how skilled you are. When you open that pandoras box, you'll never know what to find in it.

And it you are midget-ish, skills won't help you as much as you'd like to. A bigger opponent can take a lot more than you and have lots more mass to put into his punches. It's unlikely that you encounter a newb to street fighting every time that will have the openings you need for the cheap tricks you learn from MA. And if you're a gigant, there always someone bigger. You better not delude yourself, or you'll find your head below water before you realize Equal was right.

Violence is baaaaaaaaaaaaad.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:07 am

@Sage  Bruce Lee has in no way ever taught to not learn martial arts!  He believed in taking the aspects of different martial arts and utilizing elements from each one that worked best with one's personal strengths.  Jeet Kune Do happens to be his version of that, created with years and years of training in many different arts.  His martial is meant to be a way of learning what he believes to be important from each martial art, so that a practitioner of Jeet Kune Do doesn't have to go through the lifetime of training in multiple styles to find out what works best.  Read Tao of Jeet Kun Do, it has all of his philosophies and skills in it, a great instructional and informational book.  I personally practice Muay Thai.  I'm only a beginner, but I also have a large collection of martial art books that I gain elements from, to combine with Muay Thai.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:15 am

@Gauge & Equal   I don't disagree.  I am not a violent person and I don't exactly condone the methods that I suggested.  I was simply bringing up the point that sometimes martial arts isn't pretty.  More to shock people with my statements into realizing how dangerous this whole RLSH thing is.

@John   LOL, sorry for laughing but I've read The Tao of Jeet Kune Do among a dozen other books with Bruce Lee's teachings.  So, I would have to disagree with you.  He taught that true art is an expression of that which is within.  I know he created JKD for the sake of using what was useful from various martial arts, but even he himself abandoned JKD as people were starting to think of it as a "way".  Thus the statement, "having no way as way".

So yes, he wanted people to stop practicing martial arts (perhaps not in those words, but in the foundation of his philosophy), and in some way merge the "martial" with the "art", so that it flowed without resistance.  He would call it "natural unnaturalness" or "unnatural naturalness".  In the end, "I do not hit, it hits all by itself".  You can't teach that.  It just happens when the art-form breaks through the training.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:47 pm

No, your wrong on this.  Would Bruce Lee be able to fight if he didn't learned any martial arts? No! So don't think you can do the same.  All he meant was to be natural, and that no one martial art is correct.  But he does not ever say to not learn from other martial artists! Your saying he thinks people would be better fighters if they didn't do any martial arts? That is bologna! Bruce lee talks against style because as a kid he grew up seeing how different styles of martial arts separated people, and how in reality, we should all of have our own way, based around his thought, "how can I express myself fully and completely".
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:07 am

Our opinions are not as far from each other as you think, John Smile  I'm not saying that we shouldn't learn how to defend ourselves, nor that Bruce Lee said so.  I suppose I wasn't clear, using the wrong term ("art" instead of "style").  What I meant was that he wanted people to stop using "martial styles", not the act of learning how to fight.  After all, he was quite possibly the greatest fighter in modern history.  No, I apologize, as I didn't explain myself well enough.  The problem was linguistic.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:30 pm

Karate and Tae Kwon Do
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:32 am

@Sage Yeah, get you on that point, I agree.  That is really where his philosophies fall a bit flat, besides jeet kune do, he didn't talk about the way one should learn without doing Martial Arts.  I believe people should make dojos, or gyms, where people come together and apply all their individual knowledge on fighting, without it being about different styles, instead being about the individual and personal preferences.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:54 am

Amen to that, John Smile  I always hoped I could open a school like that myself. 

Someday.....
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:42 am

training as follows,mark shueys combat cane-I possess one of his as well,canee de combat-French stick fighting,bo staff,some Chinese kenpo,knife fight technique street,im inan area where caarying ovious weapons is not practical so I do the hey im not armed thing,normally carry my cane,im 57 so it looks right for my age lol,
non weapon pushing hands
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:54 am

I see a number of discussions about ninjitsu,I agree mostly with the author john cummins that it was really stealth and intelligence gatherig training given the tools carried by a 15th century ninja,saw,lockpicks ,the gando lantern,and smoke bombs this sees accurate,combat skills were taught by specialist within the household ,the best approach is to combine the skills with tech today,and martial skills learned elsewise
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:22 pm

My system of choice hasn't changed much; Pressure Point Combat and Krav Maga. Not sure if Gunslinging is considered a martial art but I've started training with a 1911 Remington Handgun and a tricked out AR-15, my two favorites but dad has me train with others as well so that I'm not limited to just two types, makes sense, like training a martial art move on both sides, one side just feels more comfortable than the other.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:34 pm

I never saw martial arts as "fighting". In my experience real fights don't look orderly or artistic, anyone can fight, but not everyone knows martial arts. Me? I'd consider myself more of a fighter than an artist, a lot of martial arts just aren't practical for the streets where people are genuinely trying to hurt or kill you.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:29 am

i have practiced some boxing, muy thai, and kick boxing
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:07 pm

It's amazing how slowly coming back into ones spirituality can re-activate a strong longing for piece and to eliminate violence from your life; I used to feel this way but over time I dunno; I just sorta lost the will to persue peaceful forms of self defense. I'm looking into combinging the following into an ultimate peaceful self defense arsenul.

Aikido
Judo
Kyusho Jutsu
Kochojutsu
NSD (Nonviolent Self Defense)
Krav Maga (For defenses and weapons disarming)
Staff Defense; (not so much striking but blocking, deflecting, redircting, and keeping the opponent a long way away from you; at least out of striking range; peaceful/soft techniques with a bo staff)

I also want to increase my ESP/Intuition/Sixth Sense so I can sense danger more effectively. I used to be able to, but I dunno what happened; over time it just sort went away. I'm thinking though with some inner work and meditation and coming into my spirituality more like I used to that they may start coming back, as well as that sense of vision and persuit of peace and happiness. Fighting without fighting. I used to believe anything could be accomplished peacefully, and I want to again. I think I need to.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:09 pm

I'm also interested in learning more about the "No-Touch Knock Out".
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:17 pm

no touch knock outs are fiction. Regardless of how many videos you may have seen. It's like a deep form of suggestion. It's impressive for what it is, but billed as something it is not.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:24 pm

I'm leaning towards that possibility as well. I'd like to keep an open mind so if I ever happen to swing by dallas I'll check the dude out and ask him to do his worst without touching me. I think I'll be able to form a solid conclusion on whether or not I want to invest heavily in learning it.

If it works on me, I'd be convinced; I'm not too gullible and have trouble believing anything I can't see for myself, and many times not even able to trust my senses entirely and want to experience something for myself with an analytical and rational mind. If it works, I'd be willing to invest in learning the science and technique behind it. But I have a pretty good feeling it's probably a dead end; I've been pretty skeptical lately; used to be more open minded. I try but it's difficult; I think too much. XD
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:46 am

In Chicago, there was a guy named George Dillman. He claimed to be a master of this "no-touch knockout". A news station was sent out to investigate. They took some M.M.A. fighters with them. Dillman and his students failed to reproduce on these individuals the same results they produced on each-other. Dillman claimed it was because their energy was blocked in ways that made it almost impossible, and they didn't believe hard enough.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:29 am

Haha, not too surprised. I'd prefer a 1911 handgun anyway. Kyusho Jutsu seems promising though; may be able to learn some one-touch knock outs. If I get good at telekinesis maybe I could slow down the blood flow to their brain. XD (Mostly kidding, but interesting thought if it's in fact possible; I'm trying to keep an open mind.)
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:31 am

Tang Soo Do, Iaido, Judo for a few years, but Taijiquan since 1988.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Sat May 31, 2014 5:57 pm

Boxing and Kung fu.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Sat May 31, 2014 9:09 pm

Really, I do a lot of Cardio Karate...moves on both sides, low kicks and multiple strikes only
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:12 pm

I have taken Shaolin Kung Fu, Hapkido and currently hold a 2nd degree black belt in American Kenpo and also was an instructor for about a year and a half.
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PostSubject: Re: What kind of martial arts have (or do) you practice?   Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:27 pm

YAY for Kenpo,  ELVIS ELVIS ELVIS
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