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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:20 pm

This is my list of the best Mix of martial arts for almost all situations. ( I guess)

Krav Maga - Useful in nearly every situation, from being attacked by multiple opponents, to knife fighting, or against an enemy with a knife.

Boxing - Mainly for the purely destructive force, if done correctly with the other M.A. could destroy a dangerous bad guy. (especially the real tuff ones)

Wing Chun - Mostly for close quarter attacks, breaking bones, joint locking, and super efficient confusion.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu - For ground battles, if your opponent were to bring you down or vice versa its best to not be crawling away like a little b**** so this could come in handy.



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Keysi Fighting Method - This is a brand new art just coming out like 2008(I think) and its still developing. So lets say you get caught up with someone who knows some decent martial arts. well woop this out and kick some axx. ( this is what batman used in batman beginnings)


These in my oppinion are the best to learn and mix together to get the best results.


Hope this helped...
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:44 pm

I'd love to try KFM if I got a chance.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:49 pm

I wonder if there is a martial arts for digging holes with your front paws and burying bones without hurting yourself and what about involving catching a frissbee in your mouth while running and jumping as far as you can Dogman and I will both have to try that
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:39 pm

It's all trained in Iron Paw.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:50 pm

There have been students of KFM since the mid 80s. The guys who developed it were students of Dan Inosanto. It was originally a mix of kickboxing and street fighting. It's not brand new, and it's not even original. It is badass if you overlook all the flaws.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:02 pm

@Gauge

Thanks..... that info was needed


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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:43 pm

Many
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Very un-clever, and very unnecessary. Get your facts in the right ballpark beforeyou try to sound knowledgeable.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:51 pm

And this need go no further if you can drop it. I have nothing against you, and the correction was relevant.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:53 pm

Yeah. When people contribute information and don't say "also you're a big doodie head" you should be grateful or at least not pissed off.

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:00 pm

The mistake isn't completely his fault. There's a lot of confusion around the date of origin for Keysi, but 2005 was when it first became widely known in the US.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:22 pm

Ratchet, really? Look in the mirror bud. Gauge was stating his opinion. And he wasn't even being nasty about it.

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:47 pm

hokay, is good for me to change tone of subject now.

Me = snow shoveling CHAMPION.

I'm good at moving weight when my feet are unstable
as a result of shoveling
and
I am good at doing it two hours at a time

WAA HAAAA

My building ( "my" ha! ) is full of immigrants.

The ones from Africa, wear socks with their sandles when it snows
and
a sweater.
The ones from the Middle East wear leather shoes when it snows
and a leather coats
and
both of those groups freak out.

(Latinos know the coats. Chinese know snow and Russians know snow -
these are our groups )

I go out to SHOVEL for those who freak out.
Because our parking lot in contained and small, it's a real party
of those who cry and the few like MEEEEEEE!

WAAA HAAA!
African and Middle Eastern men do not like to park in a spot shoveled by a woman.
sigh.

it's interesting how few men give give me trouble after shoveling season!

waaa haaa!!!
( interruption over )
( please, proceed )
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:50 pm

RatÇhet wrote:
@Gauge

Thanks..... that info was needed


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Grow the fuck up.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:35 am

Wouldn't it be great if we could get together and spar? Test one's mettle and whatnot.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:35 am

Last time I sparred I broke a tooth.

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:43 am

we broke a guy's tooth once.
We were FREAKING
even though we knew that he was the richest guy in class
( every one knew his parents famous restarant and he proved himself
as a person )

We offered to pay ( calculating that he would turn us down.
He did - thank goodness.)

I still feel bad.

We had a brown belt teacher was liked to choose sides for us and just have us spar

biggity biggity as a class - side on side- freeforall

He was a fun teacher.

He is still teaching in that neighborhood.
He deserves success.
He earned it
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:45 am

I had him on the ground with an arm held and both legs twisted.

Sharon grabbed his other arm.
He yelled.
So, his mouth was open when his face hit the ground
tooth first.

snapped one front tooth in half on a diagonal.
I still feel bad about it
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:51 am

Since we're on the topic of styles, we've been receiving free kenpo lessons from an instructor who wans to help further the XJL's effectivenss. Some of the group thought that maybe kenpo wouldn't be practical since its a traditional martial art. I took kenpo for five years.

I told them, take what you want from it, and nothing more. Yes, there is some flashy, restrictive techniques, but there's also a lot of vicious, violent bone breaking techniques to take from it. It was the first martial art I ever learned, and it taught me to break someones arm, break their nose and claw out their eyes.

This goes for ANY martial art.

There is no universal system that works for every situation, every scenario.

And that is why jeet kuno do is the most efficient martial arts PHILOSOPHY, NOT style. Anyone who tells you its a style is talking out their ass, big time.

JKD teachers to learn everything you can, any technique, any style. Doesn't matter. Take what works and strip away the bullshit. Use what works for YOU, your physicality, the situation, your strengths, your weaknesses.

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:54 am

Sounds rather chaotic but I guess that's more realistic. I propose a slightly more controlled environment with a helmet or mouth-guard for added protection, at the very least.

Too many people seem to loose teeth.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:00 am

It really all comes down to efficiency. If you're efficient with a certain aspect of a certain martial art then keep that preferred aspect but eliminate what doesn't work for YOU.

Play to your strengths, keep moving and keep your opponent guessing as you go on the offensive and he's forced to defend and react. It's inherently faster to act rather than react. That small difference in reaction time often decides who isn't going to be knocked unconscious.
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:35 am

People lose teeth when "sparring" is play fighting in the back yard. Anyone sparring at an actual training school will be wearing appropriate safety gear, namely a mouthguard.

JKD is nice and all, but saying "learn the best, disregard what doesn't work" is kind of vague. And you shouldn't train 100 ways to do one defense, it will slow your reflexes when performing them, as you have to choose (even subconsciously) which to employ. Hick's law, see below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hick's_law
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:42 am

I've found that it helps me to train in concepts rather than "moves."
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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:28 am

Urban Avenger wrote:
Last time I sparred I broke a tooth.

Do you have a mouth guard? They sell generic ones or the next time you're at a dentist they could fit you -- I don't know about the costs with that, though.

(EDIT -- seems like a common suggestion Razz)

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:34 am

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PostSubject: Re: martial art styles   Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:40 pm

All the martial arts debate in the world as to which system or style is the best really comes down to one thing. They are all the same at higher understandings. They all use the same principals. They have custom tailored techniques, but all the techniques have a tendency to converge with all the other styles at the more advanced level because they are all built on the same laws of physics, bio-mechanics and psychology. At more advanced levels harder styles start getting softer, and softer styles start getting harder.

It's best to look at your personal body make-up, and what types of reputable schools or teachers you have available to you and base what style you're going to learn off those two points. Whatever your choice ends up being the style will just provide you with a basic set of tools and concepts. The more you understand the concepts the more functional you'll become with the tools. And when you realize that you can use tools from other styles with the same concepts you've learned in that style then it won't matter what style or with whom you are training. It will only matter how hard, how often, and in what way you train.

As a side note to previous statements .... combat tai chi chuan is friggin awsome. Direct translation is "supreme ultimate fist". It was actually one of the first formal martial arts style.
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