Subject: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:01 am
Don't let Omen deceive you with his "14 Characteristics of Fascism". The entire concept was designed by a fake individual in 2003 and is a recurring WEAPON of the Democratic Party and it's marketing arms such as CNN, ABC, CBS, etc. It is FAKE NEWS.
Here is what Omen WANTS you to believe: https://predatorrights.wordpress.com/14-characteristics-of-fascism/
HERE'S THE REALITY: http://therightstuff.biz/2014/01/22/fascism-no-one-a-response-to-dr-laurence-britt/
For those wondering what I'm talking about, you can find out here: http://therlsh.7forum.biz/t11445-where-is-every-one
I'm done letting people like Omen POISON people's minds and hearts with their misguided ways and their lies.
I hope I'm not the only one willing to offer an opposing viewpoint of FACTS and LOGIC.
They might hate you for it; Omen might call you a racist fascist as he did me.
Rise above it. Rise above petty politics. VERIFY your information.
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:04 am
Well, uhm… I wish I had the energy or desire to attempt to understand you, 204, but I realize that is a lost cause.
I literally asked you to, “take a look at the following list and consider the age we are living in. If you want to have a healthy discussion on it, I am willing.” (taken word for word)
I then said, if you wanted to ‘blow your top’, you can SCREW OFF. It seems that you have chosen the latter of the choices furthermore proving your disposition.
Let me try to explain this is a way you can hopefully digest…
I am interested in understanding the underlining hurt that is ailing our nation and I invited a healthy discussion on it so I could LEARN. I spoke from the point-of-view that I related to and expanded it into the areas, I found confusing and questionable.
~~~~~~~~~~ I will try to get this through to you again (because I tried this before). There is the MESSAGE. And the is the MESSENGER. ~~~~~~~~~~
If you go back and study the thread, not only did I choose NOT to address our President by name, I expressed my feelings and opened up into exploratory questions into areas I questioned. I did NOT single YOU out and I did NOT attack you first.
For everyone being entertained by the absurdity of our ‘back-and-forth’ banter, please go back to the thread and asked who attacked whom first?
I delivered a message… he CHOSE to attack the messenger, which was me.
At that point, I knew a healthy discussion with this loser was lost. 204 is a brick wall when it comes to digesting new material or new knowledge. To engage him in a debate would be futile. He lives in a deep dark Alaskan bubble of hate, that is chewing away at his very being. He would never yield to a different way of thinking. He would never submit to understanding another point-of-view.
He literally wants to be a know-it-all (while living and leeching off his parents) He wants to talk about self (because he’s a narcissist that lacks empathy) And he ENJOYS more than anything, embracing his stupidity as his personal religion.
You see, 204 is okay when he is calling others names, but when it comes back on him… he pops.
This is a sign of his insecurities, selfishness, and utter ignorance. But it’s okay… he’s a loser, so we shouldn’t expect any more than this.
Did you honestly think I was going to let you attack me relentlessly for asking to engage into topics I truly wanted to learn more about?
Go back and stroll through some of your other posts, 204. How often have YOU engaged in order to learn something new? How often have you taken the time to place yourself in someone else’s shoes for understanding?
Instead, you spend most of your time fighting with your other crappy personalities, all strung together between Pacifist-IDIOT and unconscionable-LOSER. Either way, none of those faces you wear are worth the time entertaining.
You are a whiner. A whiner with nowhere to go and nothing to do. I whiner with an attitude and a whiner filled to the brim with resentment.
A million facts would not change you; for you are a fool. This is what makes you a little less than special and all the more common.
I pity you, fool. I truly do. I cannot save you, nor would I try. You are destined to be your own worst enemy. You don’t WANT to listen to others to learn, you merely want to HEAR them to verify that you are not in the room alone.
You are garbage. This is why you continue to get thrown out.
Go ahead and do your Provo Canyon mission, 204. No one is stopping you. Hell, you didn’t listen to any of their advice anyways. Grab your guns and go in blasting like the idiot you are. Kick the doors down, scream and yell. Perform all of your daddy-trained martial arts and take down the counselors. Use your daddy-trained SERE skills to dodge law enforcement with a group of rescued kids in tow. Use your daddy-trained disguise skills and apocalypse survival abilities in the outback to show how superior you are.
Don’t talk trash anymore, man-up and DO SOMETHING! The only thing that talks trash is garbage!
Stop whining! Stop attacking others! Talk to your other six personalities and get those jerks in line so that you can accomplish something. If you can’t and all you realize you can do is whine, then don’t come on here to rage-scream… instead, go get yourself a pacifier and shut the hell up!!
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:31 am
I don't believe for a second that you want a "healthy debate". You knock down other peoples opposing viewpoints every bit as much as I do, if not MORE than I do. I'll try to use nicer words for you this time around, despite the fact you have already called me a RACIST, a loser, a piece of garbage, and then went on to insult my FAMILY and my HOME. I'll appease your nonsensical double standard for now. Once you show your true colors again though, I will speak to you as you speak to me. It's only fair, Omen.
From here on out, all of Omen's words have been put into bold.
"We are confused about a wall."
You stated this as FACT. It is not a fact, Omen, because you CANNOT speak for all of us. MANY of us are NOT confused about a Wall. Most of us want the Wall. Over half the country voted for President Trump. Over half the country AGREES with President Trump. Your own political party is confused about the Wall. The other parties want the Wall for the most part. This claim you stated as FACT is actually FICTION. Any thinking person can figure that out.
"Those with Brown skin are scared of being targeted."
You are talking about Illegal Immigrants, Omen. You should've said that instead of calling a group of people Brown Skins. Illegal Immigrants are people who DISREGARDED our immigration law, and invaded our country anyway. The way you said it though, you are throwing everyone into one group, and are trying to promote the idea of widespread mass panic, WHICH IS FALSE. You're statement here was aimed at President Trump's recent deportations of Illegal Immigrants who were not simply here illegally, BUT WERE VIOLENT OFFENDERS. You're attacking President Trump for making America's streets a safer place.
"Those with Brown skin are afraid of being banned at the airports."
Again, you're NOT talking about Brown Skins (as you like to call them, anyway). You are referring to President Trump's TRAVEL BAN, an act of national security that the Democratic Party likes to repeatedly label as a MUSLIM BAN to get people like YOU all fired up. There are SEVEN countries from which people now need to be extremely vetted before letting into our country, because these countries are KNOWN SPONSORS OF TERRORISM. Known by Trump. Known by Obama. Known by Clinton. KNOWN BY EVERYONE WHO WATCHES THE NEWS. It is NOT a "Muslim Ban" because NINETY PERCENT OF THE WORLD'S MUSLIMS ARE STILL ALLOWED TO COME IN. You are attacking our President once again for making our country a safer place.
"Those with Brown skin are terrified of being split from their families."
Here, you are talking about Illegal Immigrants again, as if they somehow represent ALL immigrants. You are once again PROMOTING MASS PANIC where there IS NONE AT ALL. Ask any of the immigrants who have their green cards and paperwork and went through all the proper channels if THEY fear being split from their families. I'd be willing to bet money that THEY ARE NOT. You are LYING and GROUPING EVERYONE INTO ONE CATEGORY.
"Those with Brown skin are losing hope in the thought of being welcomed as a family member in this nation."
No they aren't, Immigrants (Which again, is what you REALLY meant to say,) have been continuing to pour into our country EVERY SINGLE DAY LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE. They went through the proper channels! They had no problems! They love it here! You're spreading Fake News, whether you're aware of it or not!
"Those with Brown skin fear a military approach to their community."
You're talking about Illegal Immigrants here again (for the others here, I apologize for how confusing Omen's words are; who's calling ANYONE who isn't white a "Brown Skin" for some baffling reason.) Only Illegal Immigrants fear being deported. The phrase "military approach" was brought up on CNN as just yet another way that the Democratic Party can spread their message of fear and panic in the hopes of being able to stop this nations Leader, because he's merely different, ironically!
"Those with Brown skin… wonder if their lives matter."
Everybody wonders this from time to time; it's a very natural thing to do. It's also a no brainer for most people that "all lives matter", but the Democratic Party felt the need to fan any potential racial divides by creating the movement called Black Lives Matter, which has been responsible for violent attacks on a regular basis, and set this country back about forty years and has been promoting the growing racial divide in this country; brainwashing people like Omen into thinking that all White people are racists.
"When I think of Real Life Superheroes, I think of the women marching in Washington."
First off, you're NOT a Real Life Superhero and you never were, so you have ZERO room to speak on ALL OF OUR BEHALF. Secondly, I feel it's INSULTING that you'd compare us to those liberal socialists marching in Washington. REAL LIFE SUPERHEROES would NOT reject a PRO-LIFE GROUP, which is EXACTLY what the women did that you are thinking about right now. They march for the right to kill babies.
"I think of the protestors, exercising their Rights in California… peacefully."
This is a grossly misguiding view of what is REALLY going on in California right now. They are NOT protesters. If you actually try to talk to them about what they are protesting, THEY HAVE NO IDEA. It's just a bunch of kids that have been lied to by the Democratic Party that has got them all fired up. They are escalating it further. They ARE NOT being peaceful. They are ASSAULTING people, BURNING buildings, and INCITING violence and ENCOURAGING the MURDER of POLICE. You are MISLEADING people, Omen!
"I think of those creating sanctuaries for others hunted because they are different. I think of those that embrace with a hug, instead of a choke hold."
NO, you're thinking about the CITIES that are BREAKING THE LAW by trying to make NEW LAWS, and they are GETTING PEOPLE KILLED! Here's the REAL story here, WATCH THIS, PEOPLE! Be sure to pay SPECIAL attention to her OPENING STATEMENT:
Omen also stated "I do not think of weapons, armor, evasion-and-escape, techniques…" Yes you do, Omen. Not all the time, but at least part of the time. It should be wired into your brain with your alleged background as a US Marine. No need to lie about it.
"I think of our Constitution and worry about my Brothers sitting on the battlefields overseas, who are worried about their Brown-skin comrades around him, because of proclamations spoken from the safety of Secret-Service guardians and combat experience that has only been acquired through movies."
Seriously, Omen....you can't see how DISGUSTING this statement is? How DISRESPECTFUL IT IS? You blew YOUR top when I criticised YOUR President so harshly; why is it okay for you all of a sudden to DO THE EXACT SAME THING?
"I can’t help but to ask, why is there no wall proposed for Canada, when terrorist, and tons of drugs, and assassins have been known to enter through there?"
Because the terrorists who went to Canada CAME from the countries we have RESTRICTED from coming to OUR country. Canada let in TENS OF THOUSANDS OF REFUGEES FROM MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES. To answer your question, there is no Wall proposed for Canada because the northern border is protected well enough with the COMBINED forces of Canada and the US. This isn't the case on the Mexican Border though; there is too much corruption and violence and dysfunction for any real teamwork to be effective. Mexico WANTS to get rid of their violent citizens, so they aren't as invested in trying to keep them out of America as we are. Meanwhile, Canada is a FAR more civilized environment than Mexico. Mexico is practically a third-world country. Canada is not. That is why we don't care about a Canadian Wall, Omen. You should have been able to connect those dots by yourself if you REALLY tried to.
"Why was there no ban or extreme vetting when it came to countries known for child tracking, Russian mafia ties, uranium transport, etc? Why aren’t Germans, Russians, Sicilians, Irish, or any other locations with lighter skin banned? "
Because those people haven't declared WAR on the ENTIRE WORLD. The middle-eastern sponsors of Global Terrorism are simply a HIGHER PRIORITY. You should be smart enough to know this on your own. You are only trying to FURTHER attack the President and ANYTHING having to do with him.
"We’ve had more deaths and human-trafficking violations from European countries than the Middle Eastern nations."
And we fight them too! Fact is though, the majority of European Immigrants aren't EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS WHO WANT TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
"Why are we pushing a pipeline through land we made sovereign to the Brown skins that were here in this nation before any of us?"
Dude! I just found out that this is MORE FAKE NEWS coming out of YOUR mouth! The Dakota Access Pipeline isn't even anywhere NEAR Indian land. NOT BROWN SKIN LAND.
"Why do we have to have new vocabulary terms for the concept of lying… especially when it is so blatant? (alternative truths??)"
"Alternative Truths" is just a liberal phrase for SPIN, which has been part of Politics SINCE THE DAWN OF POLITICS. It's a big deal NOW all of a suddent hough because the Democratic Party didn't get their way. Just another one of the many forms of THEIR "whining".
"We are all looking for a leader, someone understanding, hope, and a hero. Right now, its simply NOT about the armor, fighting techniques, and costumes…"
This is the only thing that I agree with 100%.
"It is about something that can strike a chord in the souls of those listening. It is about the hero or heroes that can help us to come back together and be a family again."
The reason so many of the veterans left is because they are essentially dinosaurs from the Golden Age of Superheroing, back when America was chock full of very...Traditional values, and, frankly, they don't come around here anymore because liberal democrats such as yourself disgust and insult them. Trust me; I'm good friends with the majority of them. The only superheroes I seem to be able to get along with and relate to are all in their sixties for the most part. ....Like my mommy and daddy!
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:48 am
"A person tends to speak about concepts they can relate to and events that have impact them the most. You speak about Provo Canyon and recite revenge as an ailing theme to your life… so, (taking from your quote to me) ‘what is it with you and Provo Canyon?’"
You can't compare your PERCEIVED BIAS with MY being kidnapped, beaten, raped, shanked, drugged, tortured, and experimented on for YEARS ON END. When have YOU ever been a TRUE victim of a HATE CRIME? Ever?! Have you been PHYSICALLY TORTURED solely because of your RACE? Yes or No?! If no, THEN DON'T FUCKING TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN UTAH.
"I bet you have an answer for that. I bet it involves the torture you’ve been through and the isolation you felt."
Whoa...you were right on the money on THAT one lmao. XD
"Guess what… I can relate. It’s called empathy, 204…"
I SINCERELY doubt that lmao. XD
"EMPATHY. NO, you can’t relate to anything other than you, I accept that, but blatant ignorance doesn’t allow you a pass for stupidity. Life is about learning, not about ‘knowing-it-all’."
I understand life is about learning; you however have admitted to giving up on trying to "understand me". I'm flattered, but the blatant truth is that I'm NOT that complicated of an individual, Omen! You want to understand me just about as much as you want a healthy debate lol. And never once have I ever seen myself as someone that "knows it all". I don't actually know that much. Just a handful of things. It's not always what you know though, Omen, it's what you do with what you know, and you can't always know that what you know is how it is, ya know? =)
"If an event occurs and disruption is a result of it, why would I NOT speak on the key points that affected the event. There is a shrewd undertone to the power that resides over the direction of our Nation."
Because, in your own words, you supposedly might have an interest in understanding the other side before running your pie-hole? =P
"Facts are like data… facts don’t lie! Lies are born through the interpretation of facts."
No, facts do not lie. But peopledo. Especially the people YOU'VE been listening to. Your full of lies, but it's not your fault.
"I have seen the spectacle of the disabled mocked (FACT)."
LIE. You're referring to the ALLEGED "imitation of a disabled journalist" when Trump flaps his arms around and imitates COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS WHILE DOING IT. It was NOT aimed at the reporter. It was just something Trump DOES, and INVOLUNTARY MANNERISM, and an entertaining one at that; I love a Leader who isn't afraid to look goofy on television. He's human. He makes mistakes. He won over half this nation though. WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A CHANCE. I have my doubts too. ....He used to be a Democrat.
"I have heard the racial undertones of ‘Bad Hombres’ and rapist being applied to a group (FACT)"
LIE. You're trying to call Trump a RACIST. He is not. Anyone who has been paying attention can see that clearly.
"I have watched the misogyny, and belittlement of our women on camera (FACT)"
LIE. You watched Trump defending himself against women who were attacking him. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GENDER EQUALITY?
"I have researched the filtering of a people from access because of their Race, as well as the exploit of a people… because of their Race (FACT)"
LIE. 90% percent of Muslims CAN STILL COME HERE, AND THEY STILL ARE, JUST AS EASILY AS BEFORE. Just not from any of the SEVEN SPONSORS OF GLOBAL RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM!
"I have heard the lies, the bull, the bravado, the poison, spewed as though it was the best tongue to represent all that reside under the umbrella of our Constitution… when the simple truth is – this way of thinking is what has been voted upon. THIS is where my hurt come from, 204. This is what you will never understand… and God knows, I have NO interest in trying to change the likes of you."
NAME THE LIES OMEN. LIST THEM FOR EVERYONE. PROVE YOURSELF!
This is what you will never understand: Immigration Laws are in place to protect American Citizens. Their streets. Their families. Their jobs. WE WELCOME THOSE FROM MANY MANY OTHER COUNTRIES. We have o be VERY CAUTIOUS of SOME countries, BECAUSE THEY HATE US.
This is NOT, ABOUT, RACE! It is about GOOD versus EVIL, and PROTECTING our NATION! YOUR HOME!
"If the food of division is on the dinner table, then I am going to speak about the meal I am forced to eat! It is, not only, my Right, but it is the right thing to do."
YOU are the one who is FUELING the DIVISION by playing the VICTIM when you have NO PLACE TO.
"You whined constantly about the corporate power and control of the institution that tortured you. You couldn’t stand the money or lack of accountability that protected those involved. You moaned constantly about the escaped and misdirected responsibilities that kept the business going… and YET, you are SO hardcore when it comes to others expressing something far larger than your situation, your world, and your thoughts."
BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE DYING! YOU CANNOT COMPARE YOUR SITUATION TO MINE YOU FOOL!
"Dude, sometimes I TRULY pity you."
And I TRULY am baffled that you can't even try to understand how you are SO misguided by POISONOUS LIARS WHO FOUNDED THE KU KLUX KLAN!
"If you get a chance… or dare, take a look at the following list and consider the age we are living in. If you want to have a healthy discussion on it, I am willing. If you want to sit and bark at the moon and blow your top, then simply… move on to another topic and SCREW OFF!"
I looked at the list. I researched it. What I found is posted in the FIRST message in this thread. You ONCE AGAIN shared a LIE that you were fed by LIARS. I'm trying to HELP you, I'm just not being NICE about it because you PISSED ME OFF. You crossed a line.
"I am genuinely, interested in exploring all sides of what is occurring in our country, but I am NOT interested in hearing it for a hypocrite who prides himself on calling others hypocrite, while denying he’s a hypocrite."
TELL ME HOW I AM A HYPOCRITE OMEN? I have already made it OBVIOUS how YOU'RE a hypocrite! Your turn. BACK YOUR SHIT UP.
"Applying your very same words that you so elegantly said to me, I would like to take the opportunity to swap out a couple of the words in order to bring my message to a close...."
Yes, we all know how you love to swap peoples words out with your own like a fucking jigsaw puzzle you fucking moron. -_-
“...But seriously, knock off pulling the IGNORANCE card out so much; it makes you look really stupid and is an embarrassment to WHITE people.”
You're the one who is ignorant, I find it HILARIOUS and BAFFLING and INFURIATING all at the same time lmao.
"note - I do NOT represent ALL Black people you ignorant, racist, loser!"
YOU SURE FUCKING TALK LIKE IT YOU FUCKING HYPOCITE! By the way, that Line I was just telling you that you crossed. Is was right here. I don't take kindly to people LYING AND TELLING OTHERS I'M A RACIST, especially when THEY are behaving MORE RACIST than I am! You do NOT deserve SPECIAL TREATMENT just because of your SKIN COLOR you fucking moron!
"While Ignorance is a lack of knowledge in a particular field, STUPIDITY is derived from being aware that one’s self is ignorant and takes pride in that disposition to the belittlement of their person."
Well if that's true, YOU'RE probably the STUPID one here, because I find it VERY hard that you could POSSIBLY believe your own HORSE SHIT! XD
PS: I don't LEECH off my parents. YOU DON'T KNOW ME OR MY FAMILY, OMEN. Please don't PRETEND like you DO.
I BUST MY ASS ON THIS FARM.
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:46 pm
I wish I could explain this for you, but I'd had to write a book about it. The short version is that a working democraty require educated voting citizens. You got three groups of potential voters: followers, passives and educated. For followers, politics is basicly the same as religion, not about understanding, but beliving. Passives are to lazy to vote. Enducated don't follow a party, ideology or a person. They have not only learned how politics affect their life, they use a lot of time researching the options, so they can make a good decision.
The problem is that there are to few educated voters for democraty to work. Followers and passives are both to lazy or stupid to participate, and the educated have so little influence that the elections become a tyranny of laziness and ignorance.
Have fun with your president. Because all you can do is laught. Satire is all we have left fighting with, because common sense is decided by the tyranny of lazyness and ignorance.
Enjoy the little freedom you have left, until the followers and passives get to lazy and stupid to remember how important that used to be.
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:28 pm
Equal, that was well said... not to mention, you dropped the mic! Go with yo' bad self!!
In following your lead, this is what motivates me to understand. This is what drove me to inquire into other perspectives. I am desperately hungry to figure out how we, as a nation, have spoken with many voices, one way… and voted with one stroke another.
On the grand scale this is confusing, and yet, it is truly the system we have chosen to honor. On another level, the results of our choices has seeped into the very flesh of its people in a manner that is at its most, uninvited.
Real Life Super Heroes have often been associated with being different… unique, weird. They are viewed as a sub-culture and this is not far from being correct. What makes them intriguing to study, is that embedded desire to do GOOD when evil is present.
EVIL – Selfishness at the detriment of others; Wickedness
This group, sometimes, employ masks and costumes to help them to stand out, created a reaction, and/or encourage others that anyone can be a hero. They are pillars against wrong-doers, a challenge to bullies, accepting of differences, and they embrace truth.
While ‘yes’ they are individuals and not all are the same, there WAS a time, when the title Real Life Super Heroes were associated with those values, and for some of us, we have not lost hope.
But now, we are dealing with conversations of promise from the highest levels that come with the highest costs. We are dealing with untruths spoken with a voice that has been voted upon, only to be echoed by those that fear response for disagreeing. Inclusion is questionable and alliances are questioning.
When I look at the term, ‘Hero’ I try to apply it to our current situation and I dare myself, to step outside of myself in a desperate attempt to wonder if I am understanding the word incorrectly.
If I am seeing things from the wrong point-of-view, I want to understand WHY I am struggling to swallow the term, ‘hero’ in an environment, such as we have. It feels as though it is a horse-pill being shoved down my throat instead of the warm glow of inspiration I used to feel when I saw those who moved me by their actions.
A Hero should NOT have to tell me how great he or she is. They should allow me to make that choice and boast to others about their greatness.
A Hero should NOT silence critique, especially if it has the potential to identify areas he/she can improve in order to better their performance.
A Hero embraces responsibility and holds himself/herself accountable.
A Hero is only as powerful and the weakest person he strives to aid and uplift.
A Hero uses humbleness as his thought and service as his voice.
It isn’t about the dollars, it IS much about the sense.
We are in an intriguing age, and I would like to know how we will have to evolve as a people to accept the redefining of a word we’ve known for so long to mean something different than what we are experiencing.
What is the new definition for the word, ‘HERO’?
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:32 pm
Oops, I'm sorry I forgot to respond to you, 204. I know how sensitive you get when you are not the focus of attention.
I'll try not to forget again.
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:15 pm
"I wish I could explain this for you, but I'd had to write a book about it. The short version is that a working democraty require educated voting citizens."
"You got three groups of potential voters: followers, passives and educated."
"For followers, politics is basicly the same as religion, not about understanding, but believing."
...Maybe. I don't see much of this though. Yes, people can feel VERY passionate about voting. It not a religious thing for them though, it's because they understand the gravity of the decision of choosing a leader and they have a respect for a time-honored American tradition that prevents us from becoming a full out dictatorship. Politics for some might be about "believing" but some of us do genuinely try to understand the others views. Others, such as Omen, only SAY that they do without showing ANY EFFORT to try to understand the other.
"Passives are to lazy to vote."
I guess...I'm still unclear of who you're referring to when you use the word passive. But yeah, there's a lot of millennials out there who just don't get it and don't show up to the voting booth.
"Uneducated don't follow a party, ideology or a person. They have not only learned how politics affect their life, they use a lot of time researching the options, so they can make a good decision."
I didn't vote until actual voting day. I spent a lot of time researching the options so that I could make a good decision. This is a SMART thing to do. Hillary Supporters voted early though. Many of them actually wanted to change their minds after they learned what a monster she is.
"The problem is that there are to few educated voters for democraty to work."
Something tells me that the "Uneducated Voters" you're referring to are ALL the people who voted for Trump. Most of us waited until the last day before casting our votes. We wanted to see how things played out first before jumping the gun.
"Followers and passives are both to lazy or stupid to participate, and the educated have so little influence that the elections become a tyranny of laziness and ignorance."
Obviously not. If what you were saying is true, then Followers, Passives, and Uneducated either DON'T VOTE or CAN'T VOTE CORRECTLY BY YOUR STANDARDS. You can't say that NONE of us voted when over half the country voted. For Trump. ...Kinda sounds like you might just be trying to insult everyone, but maybe not. You are making a bit more sense than Omen though.
"Have fun with your president. Because all you can do is laught. Satire is all we have left fighting with, because common sense is decided by the tyranny of lazyness and ignorance."
Wrong. We're getting shit done. We're destroying Obamacare, we're building the wall right now, we've restricted our enemies from coming here, we've saved countless peoples jobs, and we have exposed the corrupt fake news media for the sham it really is. Look at the numbers. PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP.
"Enjoy the little freedom you have left, until the followers and passives get to lazy and stupid to remember how important that used to be."
PLEASE tell me HOW Trump is ATTACKING OUR FREEDOMS?! o.O Show us! Prove it! Lol. If you can't prove it, please, just shut the fuck up and give our President a chance. Convince others in your party to stop blocking him at every turn! NOTHING WILL GET DONE THIS WAY! The Democratic Party is HURTING our country and unlike Omen I CAN BACK IT UP WITH FACTS.
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:47 pm
"Equal, that was well said... not to mention, you dropped the mic! Go with yo' bad self!!
I thought you said you wanted a message of hope? You're praising a message of DESPAIR and failure. Hypocrite.
"In following your lead, this is what motivates me to understand. This is what drove me to inquire into other perspectives. I am desperately hungry to figure out how we, as a nation, have spoken with many voices, one way… and voted with one stroke another."
NEVER ONCE DID YOU INQUIRE ABOUT OTHERS PERSPECTIVES. You are quick to jump on the Understanding-Wagon only with people that YOU ALREADY UNDERSTAND. This is an Us VS Them mentality. NOT A UNITY MENTALITY. You want DIVISION, NOT UNDERSTANDING. Am I wrong? Prove it. Inquire as to why I see things the way I do. YOU ALREADY SAID YOU GAVE UP! Hypocrite.
"On the grand scale this is confusing, and yet, it is truly the system we have chosen to honor. On another level, the results of our choices has seeped into the very flesh of its people in a manner that is at its most, uninvited."
Only for YOUR OWN PARTY Omen. Which is NOT THE MAJORITY of America. You are AGAIN SPREADING MASS FEAR WHERE THERE IS NONE YOU FUCKING LIAR.
"Real Life Super Heroes have often been associated with being different… unique, weird. They are viewed as a sub-culture and this is not far from being correct. What makes them intriguing to study, is that embedded desire to do GOOD when evil is present."
True. We all think we're the good guys here. "EVIL – Selfishness at the detriment of others; Wickedness"
Just like people who Attack the President with no good reason to do so. That can also be called a type of Self-Destruction. The Democratic Party is EVIL. It was FOUNDED on evil and racism. They lie, they manipulate, they deceive, they brainwash.
"This group, sometimes, employ masks and costumes to help them to stand out, created a reaction, and/or encourage others that anyone can be a hero. They are pillars against wrong-doers, a challenge to bullies, accepting of differences, and they embrace truth."
True, for the most part. Some of us don't wear costumes though.
"While ‘yes’ they are individuals and not all are the same, there WAS a time, when the title Real Life Super Heroes were associated with those values, and for some of us, we have not lost hope."
It still IS associated with those values. Tell me how superheroes these days are "so much less" than what they USED to be? What's changed? We STILL believe anyone can be a hero. We are STILL pillars against wrong-doers. We are STILL a challenge to bullies! We are STILL accepting of differences! We STILL embrace our truth! NOTHING HAS CHANGED OMEN! All you are doing is try to paint a picture of doom and gloom, hate and fear, division and distrust with your LIES. "But now, we are dealing with conversations of promise from the highest levels that come with the highest costs. We are dealing with untruths spoken with a voice that has been voted upon, only to be echoed by those that fear response for disagreeing. Inclusion is questionable and alliances are questioning."
YOU ARE THE ONE BEING UNTRUTHFUL Omen, please, give all of us a LIST of TRUMPS LIES. You can't just CALL OUR PRESIDENT A LIAR, and then NOT back your shit up! Prove it! Again, you are DODGING THE REAL ISSUE. You are full of hot air, and little else, because you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
"When I look at the term, ‘Hero’ I try to apply it to our current situation and I dare myself, to step outside of myself in a desperate attempt to wonder if I am understanding the word incorrectly."
This is a stupid waste of time. Get a fucking dictionary and READ THE DEFINITION. You keep trying to attach airy fairy mamby pamby metaphysical BULLSHIT to concepts which have ALREADY BEEN DEFINED FOR DECADES. You are NOT about understanding. You are about BLIND FAITH.
"If I am seeing things from the wrong point-of-view, I want to understand WHY I am struggling to swallow the term, ‘hero’ in an environment, such as we have."
No you don't want to understand. If this was true you and I would have ALREADY FOUND A MIDDLE GROUND. But you continuously FAIL to convince me that you're just BLOWING SMOKE. You've provided no real FACTS, only mere speculation and INSULTS. For you're information, a HERO is a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
"It feels as though it is a horse-pill being shoved down my throat instead of the warm glow of inspiration I used to feel when I saw those who moved me by their actions."
This is the way ALL children feel when taking their medicine for the first time. Fear not, it's perfectly normal.
"A Hero should NOT have to tell me how great he or she is. They should allow me to make that choice and boast to others about their greatness."
Agreed. They might do it anyway though; will you automatically discount them and EVERYTHING the say because of them making one or two mistakes? If so, you will NEVER find a hero. Heroes aren't perfect, Omen, they never will be. We're all HUMAN BEINGS. "A Hero should NOT silence critique, especially if it has the potential to identify areas he/she can improve in order to better their performance."
He should silence it when it's a BOLDFACED LIE. "A Hero embraces responsibility and holds himself/herself accountable."
Trump has done this countless times. You won't see THAT on CNN though.
"A Hero is only as powerful and the weakest person he strives to aid and uplift."
False. This is PURE bullshit. I You CANNOT judge define me or anybody else based upon WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO, and nobody should ever have to. That is ALSO "accountability" that you are allegedly so fucking fond of. (I am still waiting for you to apologize for calling me a Racist by the way. Show some accountability!) "A Hero uses humbleness as his thought and service as his voice. "
False. Being a hero has NOTHING to do with being humble. It's a good quality. NOT exclusive to heroism.
"It isn’t about the dollars, it IS much about the sense."
Numbers matter Omen. You should know this. You sure fucking like to talk about them (WITHOUT actually posting any.)
"We are in an intriguing age, and I would like to know how we will have to evolve as a people to accept the redefining of a word we’ve known for so long to mean something different than what we are experiencing."
We don't need a new definition of hero anymore than we need a new definition for lying. "What is the new definition for the word, ‘HERO’?"
There isn't one you moron. A hero is a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:25 pm
"uhm... I did not create the characteristics of Fascism, 204. Look them up. The sources are in books and across the internet."
That's the problem, Omen. You didn't think for yourself. I DID look them up. They are ALL WRONG and specifically aimed by DEMOCRATS at our PRESIDENT. "I feel bad about your house situation, but I do NOT feel bad in disregarding your lack of depth."
You should feel bad for calling someone as obsessed with Liberty as I am a RACIST. But you don't. You repeatedly FAIL to see how WRONG and DISGUSTING that was for you to say. "YES, you are very proud of your ignorance."
NO, nobody is "very proud" of their ignorance you fucking moron. Everyone has ignorance within them.
"YES, you are very proud of your stupidity."
NO, Omen, NOBODY is "very proud" of their stupidity. Everyone has stupidity within them. "YES, you are very proud of your frustration, rage, and anger."
NO, I am not "very proud" of my frustration, rage, and anger. THESE ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND DISTURBING FEELINGS TO HAVE. Nobody is PROUD of their FRUSTRATIONS! "YES, you are very proud or your choice NOT to listen to others and to snap whenever you believe YOU are going through a hard time and others should yield."
NO, I am not "very proud" of my tendency snap at assholes who call me a "racist, loser, piece of garbage idiot". This is just my NATURAL reaction. I've sincerely tried to not get angry when people attack me. I CAN'T HELP IT. "You actually WANT to be able to RAGE-SCREAM your hate to the world, knowing that you will be back with an innocent apology later... after-all, you feel 'privileged'. I am merely the guy stuck on Brown-skinned people, in your eyes, that refuse to acknowledge how YOUR privilege works."
NO, I don't want to spread hate to their world! You are merely the guy who's spreading the REAL HATRED that I am trying to STOP. White Privledge is yet ANOTHER lie created by the Democratic Party to FURTHER create a RACIAL DIVIDE IN THIS COUNTRY. You are NOT a victim! STOP acting like it! I DON'T OWE YOU A GODDAMN THING. Nobody does in this day and age. We SOLVED those problems a LONG time ago, and YOU are trying to UNDO IT. That is how I personally feel. You will not understand though because YOU DO NOT WANT TO. "I'm sorry, Mr. 204... I don't have that kind of power. I don’t even have that option, and you know what, I think it makes me a better person."
Good for you. "I remember how you rage-screamed about Blacks acting like thugs and talking in Ebonics, while wearing hoodies."
THIS IS A BOLDFACED LIE EVERYBODY. Omen, PLEASE, show me where I EVER SAID THAT SHIT. SHOW ME THE POSTS YOU FUCKING LIAR.
"You bellowed about them not listening to the police and deserving what came to them. YOU held this disposition and you defended it vigorously."
I was talking about a Black man who tried to STEAL A COPS GUN who was HIGH OUT OF HIS MIND and TWICE THEIR SIZE. I remember that time. YOU were thinking I was talking about A DIFFERENT BLACK MAN, one who actually WAS innocent, the SAME incident where the Police Officers were RIGHTFULLY PROSECUTED. Also, a BLACK woman shot the BLACK man I was talking about, and you STILL tried to paint the cops as RACIST. "You had ‘beef’ with protestors acting on their Rights to voice their hearts… and in the same vein, multiple people had to talk to you about using guns, during your plan to attack the Provo Canyon institution."
First off, I had "beef" with those RIOTERS who were ASSAULTING INNOCENTS, BURNING BUILDINGS, DESTROYING PROPERTY, AND ATTACKING LAW ENFORCEMENT. There is NOTHING "peacful" about ANY of that you FUCKING MORON. Secondly, I accepted accountability for my mistakes. I vowed that I wouldn't kill any of the people who PHYSICALLY TORTURED me for years on end. THE RIOTERS did NOT accept ANY accountability WHATSOEVER. I showed remorse and a desire to change. THEY DID NOT.
"You would not listen to reason and you adhered to your path of revenge. You went from being mister ‘I-won’t-use-weapons and I’m a pacifist, Diaperman’ to your current self-raging, anger-driven, revenge-wanting, scorched-earth state. Suddenly, extreme violence had a place in your life and plans as a potential solution to your grief with that institution."
I wasn't thinking straight, Omen! Lol. NEITHER ARE THE RIOTERS. I accepted responsbility and SAW the errors of my ways. THEY DO NOT. "SO… hearing YOUR kind of talk, how were we supposed to view you? How were we supposed to respond? What would you call another saying the things that you have said? What is they’d acted the way you have?"
You should view me as someone who has OVERCOME his darkest demons. They did act the way I acted. Seeing them was one of the very things that SHOWED ME the errors of my way. I'm all about PROTECTING THE KIDS now.
"NOT ONE DAMN SOUL OUT HERE PROMISED YOU AN EASY LIFE!"
THEY DIDN'T PROMISE "BROWN SKINS" SPECIAL TREATMENT EITHER!
"No one HAS to tolerate YOU."
YES, Omen, THEY DO. Every bit as much as I HAVE TO TOLERATE YOU! In this world, you will encounter people who disagree. Sometimes they will ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to see the world the way YOU DO. And at the point, you just have to fucking tolerate it. It's what a GROWN UP DOES.
"You KNOW why it’s so easy for you to NOT understand your own racist rants, because you harbor it as your privilege to HATE without repercussions. Consequences are those little ‘creepy-crawlies’ we learn from so we don’t repeat them (hint-hint)."
I AM NOT A RACIST YOU FUCKING MORON!!! I DON'T GIVE A FLYING THREE SHADES OF FUCK ABOUT RACE!!!
"I am SO sorry you lack empathy and control, but I simply don’t give too much of a damn about your endless cycle of innocence, disguise, disgust, know-it-all, despise the thoughts of others, attack them, rage-scream, get kicked off the forum/run into hiding, return under a secret account, and… REPEAT."
No you're not. You've demonstrated a profound lack of remorse. You have been the one spreading fear and hatred. You are the one who is acting innocent. You're the facade. You act like a know-it-all, and despise the thoughts of others, attack them, rage-scream, and call them racist, as well as aplethora of other filthy names. This INCITES violence, which is EXACTLY what you should expect when you act like such a DOUCHE. "If this forum was a comic, I must say, you would be our JOKER."
No, I wouldn't be. Joker is a psychopathic killer. I'm not a killer. I'm not a psychopath either. Pick up a DSMIVTR some time, Omen. Get your facts straight. "Eat feces and smile, 204. Somewhere out there you are still loved. If you are here, talk sense, or simply don’t talk."
Was a lot of followers that was looking forward to getting rid of that ineffective and expensive Obamacare. Until they realized they was recieving it...
Human stupidity is nothing new. Usually hidden in plain sight, under the guise of certainty.
You had two shit candidates. A guy how act like he know everything, and the woman selling out to all the political correctness possible without contradicting herself to obiously. How the fuck could a healthy democratic system manage to conjure that situation?
You can have you stupid arguments whenever you want, but this is the news section. THIS IS NOT NEWS. This is a discussion of politics, no matter how certain you belive you are, about "facts", "fake news", Hillary this or Donald that.
If people took a little break from being right all the time, maybe they could listen a little, maybe even learn something about how wrong they are?
For new readers, here's the resume: Darkwing Duck: I am the terror that flaps in the night!
Omen: I don't care, I got a shit president!
Omen: Boohoo, I'm black.
204: Boohoo, I'm not, but I'll whine anyways.
Omen: RACIST! 204: FAKE NEWS! Me: Educated sense. Omen: You're smart, 204 is stupid. 204: I'm not stupid, I know everything! Me: I DON'T CARE.
Let's keep it that way until UA can get this off the news section.
"Was a lot of followers that was looking forward to getting rid of that ineffective and expensive Obamacare. Until they realized they was recieving it..."
Where'd you get this from, may I ask? "Human stupidity is nothing new. Usually hidden in plain sight, under the guise of certainty."
Can't argue with that. Everyone's the hero of their own story. Stupidity has to lie somewhere. "You had two shit candidates. A guy how act like he know everything, and the woman selling out to all the political correctness possible without contradicting herself to obiously. How the fuck could a healthy democratic system manage to conjure that situation?"
An excellent point. I didn't want to vote for either one of them either. Hillary was worse in my opinion though, so Trump got my vote. So far he hasn't let me or the other millions of voters down. He's been living up to his campaign promises. Something I don't think I have EVER had the opportunity of witnessing a President do. Up until now, every President I've seen lied to the people on a consistent basis. Not saying Trump won't ever lie. Everybody lies. But it's definitely refreshing to not see it from a President as much as they used to. If Trump can't tell you something HE'LL TELL YOU THAT, lol, he won't just make something up like Obama and Clinton. In my opinion anyway.
"You can have you stupid arguments whenever you want, but this is the news section. THIS IS NOT NEWS. This is a discussion of politics, no matter how certain you belive you are, about "facts", "fake news", Hillary this or Donald that."
Yes, I agree, this is a discussion primarily around politics. Politics is just about THE ONLY THING ON THE NEWS lol, so no, this discussion DOES belong in the News Section if you want an honest opinion. But, even if it doesn't, take a look at our News Section here. Not a lot of actual news, is there? "If people took a little break from being right all the time, maybe they could listen a little, maybe even learn something about how wrong they are?"
...Good idea. I was out of line. Had a rough day; too many of the wrong neurochemicals flying around in my head. Nieces and nephews screaming in my ear all day. At the end of the day I just went online and started ranting and raving to everyone lol. Get all that tension out. Feels good.
"For new readers, here's the resume:
"Darkwing Duck: I am the terror that flaps in the night! Omen: I don't care, I got a shit president! 204: BLASPHEMY! Omen: Boohoo, I'm black. 204: Boohoo, I'm not, but I'll whine anyways. Omen: RACIST! 204: FAKE NEWS! Me: Educated sense. Omen: You're smart, 204 is stupid. 204: I'm not stupid, I know everything! Me: I DON'T CARE."
Lol.....nice. You're a comedian. "Let's keep it that way until UA can get this off the news section."
I would save ANY child of ANY RACE from a prison torture camp! I would save ANY MAN and ANY WOMAN of ANY RACE from a burning building! I am friends with men, women, and children of MULTIPLE RACES.
So please, Omen, EXPLAIN YOURSELF. How the fuck am I racist?
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:01 am
Ok, I will be serious with you, 204. While the banter is fun, every-now-and-then, it does not help the focus of this forum.
Listen, when I am asking for an engagement on a topic, I am seeking to learn. When there is an existing topic that has new knowledge that I like, I enjoy reading it without participation, unless I have something of value to contribute. When there is a topic I can relate to or have in-depth knowledge about, I actually login to share what I know.
I have done this for years, which is why I have appreciated this community.
I was not fond of how quickly you attacked me directly concerning the post on the following link:
There was absolutely NO reason, for you to force the deterioration of the conversation, as I was seeking to actually hear other opinions. In fact, I tried to get back to the topic, even AFTER your attack. Instead, you were more than anxious to drag the conversation into the mud… and ‘YES’, I followed.
I take FULL responsibility for that, because I am simply tired of you repeating your exhausting, played-out cycle over-and-over again. With all due respect, I am being honest when I say to you…
This forum is NOT your playground. This community is not your personal Facebook, or your private counseling session. I’m seriously not trying to be sarcastic, I am being forthright. You have an extremely strong need to force everything to you, your life, and your happenings.
204, this is not bad, it is that… THIS community does not exist to serve you.
Some of the knowledge you contribute, is not all bad. The problem is when others disagree or challenge you. I have been in the military and in life, I have seen quite a bit… but, when it comes to you, there is something within you that drives to ‘one-up’ others, as though there is a prize.
The truth is, there is no prize. We’re just a group of people posting messages online and looking to inspire one-another, or to be inspired. No one is out to get you or be better than you. I didn’t do SERE-training. I didn’t study Krav Maga. I don’t plan on the apocalypse.
I’m just a guy who loves to learn and be amongst those trying to do ‘Good’.
204, you don’t back down. You push your thoughts and opinions as if you have a secret agenda to change the culture of this board. Many of us, if not all… did not come here for a cultural war, we came to be within the presence of anonymous others sharing a quiet sub-culture.
Debates are expected to be intense, but debates are most fruitful when the arguments are about the MESSAGE, not personal attacks against the MESSENGERS. When two strong forces are having a healthy debate, more-than-often, the true middle ground is found best by applying logic and empathy; hence, the other issue, many others, including myself, are annoyed with you about.
The reason you don’t and can’t back down, is NOT because of logic (you’ve demonstrated this), it is mostly because of empathy, 204. Your lack of empathy is ripping you apart, as well as it pushes others away.
You have been tortured - so has others. Listen to them, place yourself in their shoes. You think YOUR torture makes you the exception to anything others can mention when it comes to pain and strife. 204, some of us have seen death, killings, lost friends, and been mentally ripped apart, only to hang on to depression as our brightest hope.
You can’t hear the pain between the words that others write, because you are so hungry to stand on stage and bellow about your grief.
Know this, for a person to have chosen to become a RLSH, something made them wake up with the desire to represent something greater than themselves. This is the underlying mystery and attraction to this community. Each person is here because they WANT to be here. Something draws them here and something made them create an account to login in order to become a member.
Deep down in that process, is where the magic lies, 204. They are NOT here for you. This community is MUCH larger than you. Stop attacking the Messengers and begin to ask others about themselves and their drives. Listen closely to their answers, and somewhere between their words, you will find their heart.
But you need to understand, you can never hear their heartbeats without empathy.
“Heroes aren’t made during good times.” -Omen
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:25 am
....I'm sorry for attacking you so quickly, Omen. I attacked because in the past you called me a racist, and I took it personally, but I didn't make a big deal about it back then. When you called me a racist the other day though, I took it personally again, and, in a moment of weakness, I decided to lay into you perhaps harder than I should have. I did so because every once in a while the thought occurred to me that perhaps you were also talking behind my back, telling others that I was a racist fascist. That scared me, and I automatically turned that fear into anger, and felt a need to attack you in order to defend myself and my honor. There was a reason, Omen. Nothing in the Universe is inexplicable.
I don't see this forum as my playground, and I don't appreciate when you imply that I do. Everyone uses the internet for therapeutic purposes to some degree or another as well; it's a way to let our frustrations out and rant and rave in a relatively safe environment, whereas in person, things might spiral into a fist fight lol.
And you brought up a good point about me that I don't think I quite realized before. I do feel like I have to "one-up" other people, as though there is a prize. This was how I was programmed to live day in day out by Provo Canyon School. We had to be better than the other guy. We did get a prize for it. After years and years of being in that type of environment, I guess it just got wired into me. I'm never satisfied with myself, I always feel like a failure to some degree because there's always going to be somebody better than me. This can send me down self-destructive paths of hopelessness where I just stop trying my best all the time to be better, because I'll always fall short of my own standards which were implanted in my brain. ....Which is why I also get angry when you call me a "know-it-all", because I feel like anything but. I am terrified of the world because I'll never ever feel like I'm "enough". I was programmed like a computer to not back down and to not accept defeat. To be single-minded and headstrong. As a result.....you're right. It does interfere with my empathy. ....I'm sorry.
And I accept your kinda-sorta apology.
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:30 am
They turned us into "Sociopathic Stepford Children" in the words of another survivor whose name I can't recall off the top of my head. Over time, the Program drives you insane. We saw death, and killing. We lost friends time and time again. We were all mentally ripped apart, and suicide was our only hopeful means of escape. Year after year after year. .....I just don't think people can fit it into their heads how horrible the situation is.
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Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:31 am
...Which is why I got so angry when you tried to compare it to race and politics.
Again. I'm sorry if I overreacted.
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:44 am
I miss Bernie Sanders
If I were you, I'd miss George III
Subject: Re: OMEN'S FAKE NEWS Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:59 am